Cameron

[Graeme]

Hi folks. This is my first posting here. I'm looking for any info at all on Donald Cameron born in Boleskine and I think in Muirnich, although this may well be wrong. Donald was born around 1832 - 1837 and his father was called Symon. Donald is not the one born in 1832 and buried in the old kirkyard at Foyers. My Donald moved to Savoch in Aberdeenshire aged 19 or 20. Can anyone suggest why? TIA.

[cathy]

Can you give us a little more information? Spouse? Date and place of death??? I have a few places I can take a look for you!

Cathy

[Graeme]

Hi Cathy, I don't know a lot I'm afraid. Donald Cameron's age varies by five years between his marriage certificate and his death certificate. I suspect that this is because he married a woman a few years older than him. I only discovered he was from Boleskine because of a 1855 certificate. But here's what I've got.

Donald Cameron b 1832 - 1837, Boleskine, married Jane Walker, born December 1829, Methlick, Aberdeenshire. They were married 18 June 1853 in Methlick. Their children were Donald, Mary, Simon, James, William, John, Francis and Elizabeth in that order.

Donald's father was named as Symon (sic) on Donald's death certificate but there was no mother named.

Donald died 5 May 1985 and Jane 20 July 1890.

Looking on the IGI for a Simon Cameron who may fit I found the following:
Simon Cameron b 1815 - parents Peter Cameron and Ann Mcgregor in Muirnich
Simon Cameron married Christian Mcintyre 1817 or 19
Simon Cameron b 1819 - parents Hugh Cameron and Ann McGillivary.

I've got details on Peter Cameron and Ann Mcgregor from someone else's family tree but there is no mention of a Simon in them.

But other than that I know nothing. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

[cathy]

I think I need to start a "Missing Ancestor" page. Do you know if Donald had any siblings?? Have you checked for a will yet?
Cathy

[cathy]

There was a Donald Cameron born 6/14/1822 to Simon Cameron and Christian McIntyre in Boleskine. This birthdate would appear to line up more correctly with Donald's sife. Men from this area of Scotland did not marry young. There were 4 children from this union in Boleskine.
JOHN CAMERON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 01 AUG 1820 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland

52. MARGARET CAMERON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: 15 SEP 1824 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland

53. DONALD CAMERON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 14 JUN 1822 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland

54. JANET CAMERON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: 23 JAN 1827 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland

Perhaps if you tried to follow up on some of these it might help???

Good Luck and keep me posted. The offer is always open to post the story on this website!
Cathy

[Graeme]

Hi Cathy, Donald had a brother Alexander who was a witness at his marriage. I'll have another check through my notes and see if there's anything I may have missed. Thanks for the info on Simon Cameron and Christian McIntyre. I've looked at them before but I'm just not sure.

[Graeme]

Australian Camerons (http://www.clan-cameron.org.au/getperson.php?personID=I64182&tree=cameron1)
Just to bring you all up to date on this query, the genealogist at clan-cameron.org.au is descended from Symon Cameron as well. Now he hasn't got anything more than I already have so I'm considering it a brick wall and I'll now get on with the rest of my life. :)

[Graeme]

No he isn't! I've just had an email from him telling me that the info on his site is in fact from someone else - a previously unknown cousin living in Alberta in Canada. I'll be writing to her this weekend and we'll see what turns up. We'll maybe get a new member out of it.

[Graeme]

Right then folks. I have made a sudden spurt backwards, if that's good English, and got myself back another three generations and in 1762 I have an Alexander Ramsay born in Paible?? in Dumfries-shire, down by the English border, and dying in Croftmore in 1858. According to his death certificate Alexander's son Ewan Ramsay was then living with his family in Paddockfield.

I'm guessing here but as Alexander was a shepherd what are the chances he was recruited to look after the sheep when they were first introduced to Stratherrick? I'm not sure when the sheep first arrived though. Can anyone tell me? I'll be rereading a Country Called Stratherrick tonight to see what I can pick up.

I'm not a MacTavish yet but I'm getting very close and I was wondering if any of your ancestors would have been paid rent by these Ramsays. If so what's the chances of a refund?

The Camerons, who are on my father's side, I have now got living at 1 Trinloist up by Loch Bran. I was telling my mother this the other day. She comes from Gorthleck and told me that her best friend's granny lived in that house and she knew it well. It's gone now all but for some stones.

Then she told me that she remembered her mother telling my father, about 40 years ago, that these Camerons were related to him. I've been chasing this connection for years now and when I asked her why she never told me this before she said that she didn't think I was interested in that old rubbish. Ah well.

[Graeme]

As I was looking gleefully at the death register for Boleskine I noticed this little slip by the registrar. The year is 1858 and the mannie has dated everything on the page 1838. Or it could be vice versa. In any event I'll be phoning the office to get him sacked.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6861/untitledpx2.jpg

[cathy]

YOU are a McTavish Graeme............................you lived right next door for God's sake! Did you ever think about taking part in a DNA study??? The males of the line have to do it, and I just had my brother take the genetic DNA study. I have to admit I do not understand it yet, but they are moving the data to ancestry.com in July, and there stuff is so much easier to understand. When the data is transferred I will let you know, and I think I will start our own DNA project. It will solve a lot of mysteries.

I will take a look this weekend at my grandfather Archibald MacTavish's will. He died in 1834. There was a thorough listing of the inventory of possession's including livestock. He died at Garthbeg, so that will be a good point.

as always, thanks for the posts, I do enjoy them and find them most informative!

Cathy







Right then folks. I have made a sudden spurt backwards, if that's good English, and got myself back another three generations and in 1762 I have an Alexander Ramsay born in Paible?? in Dumfries-shire, down by the English border, and dying in Croftmore in 1858. According to his death certificate Alexander's son Ewan Ramsay was then living with his family in Paddockfield.

I'm guessing here but as Alexander was a shepherd what are the chances he was recruited to look after the sheep when they were first introduced to Stratherrick? I'm not sure when the sheep first arrived though. Can anyone tell me? I'll be rereading a Country Called Stratherrick tonight to see what I can pick up.

I'm not a MacTavish yet but I'm getting very close and I was wondering if any of your ancestors would have been paid rent by these Ramsays. If so what's the chances of a refund?

The Camerons, who are on my father's side, I have now got living at 1 Trinloist up by Loch Bran. I was telling my mother this the other day. She comes from Gorthleck and told me that her best friend's granny lived in that house and she knew it well. It's gone now all but for some stones.

Then she told me that she remembered her mother telling my father, about 40 years ago, that these Camerons were related to him. I've been chasing this connection for years now and when I asked her why she never told me this before she said that she didn't think I was interested in that old rubbish. Ah well.
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[Graeme]

I'm keen to give the DNA thing a bash. The problem I 've got is which version to choose. There seems to be a fair few companies offering to do it for you at various prices and at various levels. However if someone tells me what to do I'll be more than happy to comply. The other problem is that when I look at the science itself I get lost completely. So who's going to explain it to me?

[cathy]

I'm keen to give the DNA thing a bash. The problem I 've got is which version to choose. There seems to be a fair few companies offering to do it for you at various prices and at various levels. However if someone tells me what to do I'll be more than happy to comply. The other problem is that when I look at the science itself I get lost completely. So who's going to explain it to me?
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I know what you mean, I get pretty lost in it also. My brother sent a swab in to relative genetics, and mostly we can be certain that our ancestors were from Scotland and Wales, and a bit of Ireland. I found some groups and as expected we are pretty solid with the Fraser's matching 94% of the markers. I have just sent for a book so I can understand it better. You can compare two specifics tests, and see how many generations you go back for find a direct match. Relative Genetic's just combined with ancestry.com. www.ancestry.com has a much larger project and things are much better explained. I will let you know when the merger is complete (this summer) and my information is moved there. Then I will start a project to get the discounted pricing. I will let you know when this is all completed. It should be very interesting.

We both come from a very sparse area of Scotland Graeme, I know in my heart we share common ancestors, it is just finding them!

I will keep you all posted!
Cathy

[cathy]

I finally had a chance to take a look at my 3rd great-grandfather's will. When he died in 1831, he had 2300 head of sheep. So most assurely, sheep were there by 1831. I did not find sheep in the will of John MacTavish of Garthbeg when he died in 1777, so between those years.

Cathy







Right then folks. I have made a sudden spurt backwards, if that's good English, and got myself back
another three generations and in 1762 I have an Alexander Ramsay born in Paible?? in Dumfries-shire, down by the English border, and dying in Croftmore in 1858. According to his death certificate Alexander's son Ewan Ramsay was then living with his family in Paddockfield.

I'm guessing here but as Alexander was a shepherd what are the chances he was recruited to look after the sheep when they were first introduced to Stratherrick? I'm not sure when the sheep first arrived though. Can anyone tell me? I'll be rereading a Country Called Stratherrick tonight to see what I can pick up.

I'm not a MacTavish yet but I'm getting very close and I was wondering if any of your ancestors would have been paid rent by these Ramsays. If so what's the chances of a refund?

The Camerons, who are on my father's side, I have now got living at 1 Trinloist up by Loch Bran. I was telling my mother this the other day. She comes from Gorthleck and told me that her best friend's granny lived in that house and she knew it well. It's gone now all but for some stones.

Then she told me that she remembered her mother telling my father, about 40 years ago, that these Camerons were related to him. I've been chasing this connection for years now and when I asked her why she never told me this before she said that she didn't think I was interested in that old rubbish. Ah well.
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