Hello Everyone

[astrid]

Hi,

I am researching my great great great great grandparents Tavish McTavish and Isabella Dunbar. I am knew to forums so I ask you all to bare with me with regards to my entries.

Astrid :blink:

[cathy]

Welcome to our forum!

Can you give us all a little more information on your ancestors?? Dates and places of their birth and death?????

Where are you from?
Cathy

[rhona]

Hi Astrid
this is reallystrange coz Ive recently been looking at you grandparents as possibly related to mine because of same area ,same period and same family names---
Were they married 1802 at Coignascalan and had a son Angus 1803??
My lot lived near Culloden just outside Inverness.

[REALMACTAVISH]

hi rhona hi astrid FAILT'E

[cathy]

I think it is a foregone conclusion that any person who lived in this area of Scotland during that time HAD to be related in one way or another to each other. Part of our problem is that church records pre-1800 "ish" were said to have been lost in a loch or river by the minister of the Boleskine church. That is a pretty large piece of history to have lost. Astrid and I have talked a little about DNA testing and I am going to check in the next week or so! We prove our common DNA roots, and then go from there!

Cathy

[Truth Seeker]

Hello and welcome, Astrid!

You've come to a good place for help and fun!

T.S.

[REALMACTAVISH]

YES ASTRID; CATHY'S VERY GOOD AT HELPING AND T S AND I ARE GOOD AT HAVING FUN!

[cathy]

now come on REALMACTAVISH....you do a find job of "helping" too! What happened to me being a fastcat??

[REALMACTAVISH]

CATHY- YOU ARE THE UNIQUE AND ORIGINAL FAST CAT AND INDEED EPITOMIZE THE TERM

[cathy]

Well that is more like it! Thanks for the compliment!
Fast Cat #1

[migovie]

tavish mactavish was born 1780,,,maried isobella dunbar 1802 ...he died 1855 in moy (invernshire)
children
angus b 1803 died 1855 usa married catherine megillivary
duncan
isabella (died as infant)
elspett (died as infant)
alexander
john
ann
margaret

***** 1901 census shows duncan mactavish on his farm ...with his sisters and brothers ...shown as
1...duncan single
2..his sister ann (mackenzie widow)
3 his brother alexr single and almost blind...

proves that family stuck together ....

[migovie]

tavish and isobella had son alexr born 11th may 1811
tavish was born inverness 1780

naming patterns indicate tavish was son of a
angus mactavish and elspett

elspetts mum was pos isobella
elspetts da was pos duncan

[migovie]

at a quick glance all i have is
angus mactavish married to elspett mcdonald
having listed children from 1787 to 1789..??
ann b 1785
alexr b 1787
john b 1789
margaret b 1791

[rhona]

hiya everybody!
hope Astrid will return and join us for a big party next year!
Im curious 'bout these Moy McTavishes cos the location is very near the "lost" glen I was telling you about--Glen Mazeran---Id never heard of it till I discovered it was the name given to my grt x5 auntie --Mazarine
McTavish!--altho she was born near Inverness---
maybe she was conceived there and her parents were a bit rebellious of naming patterns!--they clearly couldnt afford to holiday in Paris,Brooklyn or India!
Anyways its great fun trying to put the pieces of this Mctavish jigsaw together----I just never realised there were so many brothers in each generation ; so many who must have thankfully survived many harsh winters and devastating diseases.
It seems there were far more Anguses than Id imagined too----there was another who married an Elspeth in 1759 at Dores -- :rolleyes: so he could in theory have been an uncle of Tavish---or possibly the grandfather--
Another Angus left Stratherrick with his family to live on Mull ---he features on the 1841/51 census---perhaps he was retracing his own roots!---
Onr things for sure--the families back then were very well informed about their roots thru legend and stories told around the fireside at night---passed down the generations----till the advent of tv and game-boys!!
well- to be fair kids dont really change that much --Ill bet they sometimes rolled their eyes and said "whatever--"
-If only we had a time machine eh?

[migovie]

soooooo right about mactavish bedtime stories....those fireside and bedtime family talks only really consisted of 2 subjects ...the mactavish history as a clan and its beginnings and the only book to read back then ...the bible...so bedtime consisted of family time reading the bible around the dinner table ( as depicted in numerous paintings etc) then relax time when dad would sit and tell stories of the mactavish clan beginnings...and this was a task not taken lightly....it was those little history talks that kept the clan together, those talks kept the past attached to the present and gave life a meaning for these hard working folk...those stories meant the boys would later go into battle and be willing to die with pride in the same manner their ancestors did...it was ESSENTIAL....
and...............
naming patterns.????
IF you find you have an unrecorded period of births and ESP if you find a gap of a few years after mariage with no birth records in your district and ESP if you find the naming patterns begin with what appears to be the wrong name..???
then try and find the probable birth place of the wife...cos it was normal procedure for a young wife to be sent back to her mothers for the birth and later stages of pregnancy of he 1st born...so it quite possible that
your missing 1st borns are actually registered in another parish entirely .